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Wednesday 19th September 2007 at 1:59:16 AM  

genornsby
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Hi all,
I wonder if some of the vegetarians on the forum can help me with a few questions. Firstly why be vegetarian, yes I know the obvious reasons. Yes, meat today in general is not all that good, if you think of all the antibiotics ect. And yes it is very cruel - but then explain to me. If the main reason is it being crual to animals, then why do so many vegetarians still walk around with those leather bags, shoes ect? Doesn't that seem a bit odd.
I've been pondering on the idea of cutting meat out of my diet completely and until I can understand all the aspects of it I really can't just commit to making a stand on the matter.
 
Wednesday 19th September 2007 at 10:38:03 PM  

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Hello the meat thing is something that is so hard I think. I can't say that I am perfect, but I do try. I never eat red meat but I do at times eat fish and sometimes chicken. I just find it hard not to. I took an amazing class from Dharma Mittra not long ago and he firmly believes in no meat. The way he explained it made you never want to eat it. He said it was like having cadavers in your fridge. He is a strong believer in God and says thou shall not kill should apply to everything. Anyway, I am no Dharma Mittra but maybe if you visit his web site you can read about his practice. He is an amazing man with so much love to give just hearing his story is inspiring. The leather bag and shoe thing I do not do. There are plenty cute things out there not made of leather.
 
Wednesday 19th September 2007 at 10:45:22 PM  

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Hi genornsby, i am no vegan but i know some friends who practice it. I guess each vegan has his own reasons for choosing to be one, like one of my friend's main reason is that she believes that every living thing here on earth is equal and that she would'nt want to harm nor consume any other animal. So basically it will still be you who gets to decide what's going to be your motivation.
 
Thursday 20th September 2007 at 6:24:09 AM  

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Girl4yoga and indieleen,
Thx so much for your replies. Thinking of it as cadavors in your fridge is certainly enough to put you of meat for good.
 
Tuesday 2nd October 2007 at 12:47:23 PM  

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Genornsby,
My motivation for going vegetarian is the principle of ahimsa. Ahimsa can be translated as "nonviolence" and it can be applied in all aspects of our lives. The are 8 components or "limbs" of yoga: yama, niyama (sort of like the B attitudes if that resonates for you), asana (what is typically meant by "yoga"), pranayama (the breathing exercises), pratyahara (sensory withdrawal), dharana, dhyana (concentration, meditation) and samadhi (enlightenment). Ahimsa is one of the yamas (restraints or things we shouldn't do). In general it can be thought of as causing the least amount of harm as we go about our daily lives. Eating a plant based diet causes less harm to the animals and the environment and so therefore it is the right thing to do. It's pretty simple -;- and it has really helped me to maintain my commitment to a vegetarian diet (nearly vegan). And I grew up on a farm, so it's been quite the change! There are many people out there who are vegetarian for other reasons and that's great, but I think ahimsa provides a good foundation for making positive life change.
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Cory

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Tuesday 2nd October 2007 at 9:22:28 PM  

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Hey Cory,
I was wondering if you have any theories about why there seem to be so many more food allergies diagnosed now as opposed to decades ago. I have a 3 year old with a tree nut (especially cashew) allergy to the point of a probable anaphylaxis response. She has quite a few friends with dairy, gluten and nut allergies. So, any illuminating thoughts from the resident food expert?
Thanks in advance!

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Tuesday 2nd October 2007 at 9:55:20 PM  

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I sympathize with you Tracey, it must be really hard for your kid. I've had a student last year who had nut allergies so his parents requested if I could watch over him every now and then especially the food he eats, quite difficult since nuts can be included on processed foods, most of the time it can't be seen so you would have to carefully read each and every food label.

 
Tuesday 2nd October 2007 at 10:00:14 PM  

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Thanks Sammie. Right now it is harder for me than her. All she understands is that some foods make her vomit, itch, and sneezy. Poor thing. We just found out a few months ago that she is allergic by her accidental ingestion of cashews and a very scary trip to the ER. She'll turn 3 on Friday and I have been telling myself that once she turns three I will work hard on educating her about what foods are not safe for her. She'll be starting preschool soon and won't be under my watchful eye at all times. She'll need to be vigilant herself.
She seems to be okay with foods that have been processed in the same factory as nuts thank goodness. I just have my fingers crossed that I won't have to use her EpiPen.

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Tuesday 2nd October 2007 at 10:13:02 PM  

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I find it unusual why a lot kids right now are having nut allergies, as compared to our time. Well it's good that you discovered it as early as now, there are a lot of pre-school that have a "nut-free zone" so you better not worry , plus you can coordinate with the school administrators and teachers regarding this matter. Cheer up Tracey.
 
Tuesday 2nd October 2007 at 10:34:06 PM  

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sammie05 posted the following on Tuesday 2nd October 2007
I find it unusual why a lot kids right now are having nut allergies, as compared to our time. Well it's good that you discovered it as early as now, there are a lot of pre-school that have a "nut-free zone" so you better not worry , plus you can coordinate with the school administrators and teachers regarding this matter. Cheer up Tracey.

Yes, you're right. I have already been in contact with her preschool so they know nuts are dangerous for her. And, yes, I find it unusal too that so many kids have so many allergies. We are quite lucky to know early on. Thanks for the words of encouragement.

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Wednesday 3rd October 2007 at 8:38:55 AM  

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HI Tracy,
Doesn't it seem that bringing up children was a lot simpler when we were kids. now almost every 5th boy/child is said to have HDHD, when we were young they were call hyperactive kids - and there was no such thing as putting them on Ritilin and or other drugs. They were just sent to play out side and be careful. Now kids are of to therapy and gosh know what else. We had better diets and sweets and soda's weren't kept in my house, so no we didn't consume things like MSG or Tartrazine etc. We grew up on food and fruit and yogurt and cheese oh and that glass of milk each day.
Now this will be interesting for some of you to know. Here in South Africa TV was only availible in the mid to late 70's, and the early 80's they only started braodcasting from 6pm. We (and most of the people my age) played outside in the streets or in my case in the clay quarry and rail way lines (how we survived I dont kno) but we had to come home when the street lights came on, bath and bed by 8pm. We could in any case not stay up later than that cause we were too tired. I've tried to adopt the same "simple life" principles with my kids. Not always easy cause DVD's are some times the easy way out for parents.
 
Friday 12th October 2007 at 8:59:51 PM  

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vanu posted the following on Friday 12th October 2007
i am a vegetarian and
"we won't eat those leather bags, shoes. those are to protect us only".


Sunday 6th January 2008 at 11:16:02 PM  

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There are a number of reasons to go Veg.

1. Animal cruelty is bad
2. Veg and Vegan lifestyle is healthier
3. Factory Farming is bad
4. Antibiotics are bad
5. Environmental impact of having so many animals running around for slaughter is really really bad.

If you are thinking of this lifestyle I think that the biggest convincing piece of data is my number 5 above, all other run a very close second in my book.
 
Sunday 6th January 2008 at 11:44:55 PM  

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jaredmdame posted the following on Sunday 6th January 2008
There are a number of reasons to go Veg.

1. Animal cruelty is bad
2. Veg and Vegan lifestyle is healthier
3. Factory Farming is bad
4. Antibiotics are bad
5. Environmental impact of having so many animals running around for slaughter is really really bad.

If you are thinking of this lifestyle I think that the biggest convincing piece of data is my number 5 above, all other run a very close second in my book.


hi jared, how long have you been a vegetarian?
 
Monday 7th January 2008 at 10:08:25 AM  

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I am sorry, I am homnivor. As I am a women from a forest, and from a cold country, and of science too, I can make this point. Everything can be good if it is done for the good reason. Cruoty, what good reason can I find for to be crual. I find no reason. When I eat meat, it is because it is my meal, and as native from here, I respect the animal I eat. You are so right in the concern of farm, and cruoty, and the abuse of antibiotics.
 
I do appreciate that science made us discover antibiotics, because you can treat bad infections with it. You can make a cow groing up too, for what ? Is it a good reason ? Why to abuse ?
 
Science without conscience is nothing else than the death of soul.
 
For the moment, I prevent myself from OGM, in cooking my meal, in looking at what I buy. I know, you can imagine, now, every children of occident is an axperimental animal. All food is contemined with new products, that have never been tested before in a humen life. Children are exposed to plastic, PVC, toys, food, pesticids, they grow up assimilating those things in there own tissus. They will be vulnerables and changed for all there life. They will have reproductive organ changed.
It is the choice we make that makes this change.
Anouk
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